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 Oct 19 2005, 01:15 AM
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Oct 19 2005, 01:56 AM
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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news... but DVD Times suggest a 93m run time for the DVD. I sincerely hope that's a press release error because it should be 111m(!)
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Oct 19 2005, 06:21 AM
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QUOTE(Markgway @ Oct 19 2005, 02:56 AM) Sorry to be the bearer of bad news... but DVD Times suggest a 93m run time for the DVD. I sincerely hope that's a press release error because it should be 111m(!) [right][snapback]3728[/snapback][/right] What's this about the Spanish DVD having cuts?!!  Very disappointed I shelled out a lot to get that one when I could've got a VCD or LD instead 
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Oct 19 2005, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE(luckystars @ Oct 19 2005, 06:21 AM) What's this about the Spanish DVD having cuts?!! Very disappointed I shelled out a lot to get that one when I could've got a VCD or LD instead [right][snapback]3729[/snapback][/right] I don't have the Spanish DVD - but I haven't HEARD anything about cuts before. -------------------- |
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Oct 19 2005, 02:40 PM
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I am pretty sure the Spanish disc is uncut... certainly no obvious cuts (it's the only version I've seen though) What's the running time?
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Oct 19 2005, 03:42 PM
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I can't believe this is finally coming out on R1. Hopefully this will be uncut!! Never got around to this disc because the import was really expensive (at least at the time I checked). Well.. if it's cut then
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Oct 19 2005, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE(Mr Booth @ Oct 19 2005, 02:40 PM) I am pretty sure the Spanish disc is uncut... certainly no obvious cuts (it's the only version I've seen though) What's the running time? [right][snapback]3731[/snapback][/right] If the Spanish DVD is PAL it should be approx 105/106m. The only version I currently have is taped from UK TV and it's uncut. -------------------- |
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Oct 19 2005, 03:50 PM
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hey,
Swedish scanbox disc (16:9, Cantonese Dolby Surround) runs 106m 15s PAL. Is missing the brief dialogue the Spanish does. English credits. -------------------- |
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Oct 19 2005, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(Knetan @ Oct 19 2005, 03:50 PM) hey, Swedish scanbox disc (16:9, Cantonese Dolby Surround) runs 106m 15s PAL. Is missing the brief dialogue the Spanish does. English credits. [right][snapback]3735[/snapback][/right] Hey Ken, What dialogue is missing from the SWD/SPN versions? I better check my tape!! 
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Oct 19 2005, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(Knetan @ Oct 19 2005, 04:50 PM) hey, Swedish scanbox disc (16:9, Cantonese Dolby Surround) runs 106m 15s PAL. Is missing the brief dialogue the Spanish does. English credits. [right][snapback]3735[/snapback][/right] Phew  Dug out my Spanish disc and the running time is 106.16  This'll still be the disc of choice if the R1 is shorter. -------------------- The Jackie Chan Films Releases Project. Please contribute your knowledge.
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Oct 19 2005, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE(luckystars @ Oct 19 2005, 04:16 PM) Phew Dug out my Spanish disc and the running time is 106.16 This'll still be the disc of choice if the R1 is shorter. [right][snapback]3737[/snapback][/right] I think Ken is saying that BOTH the SWD and SPN editions are cut. Is that right? There's no point me checking my tape until I know what I'm looking for...? -------------------- |
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Oct 19 2005, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE(Markgway @ Oct 19 2005, 06:19 PM) I think Ken is saying that BOTH the SWD and SPN editions are cut. Is that right? There's no point me checking my tape until I know what I'm looking for...? [right][snapback]3741[/snapback][/right] Ahhhh. Oohhhh!. Oh, I see ...maybe you're right, I'm not sure exactly what Ken means. Likewise, I have no idea what was cut. Maybe it's just a different print and not a cut as such.Kenneth? -------------------- The Jackie Chan Films Releases Project. Please contribute your knowledge.
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Oct 19 2005, 05:34 PM
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hey,
chen lung informed me a while back that an exchange between Michael Wong and a gwailo is cut by a single line of dialogue. It's not much but it's not there.  From chen lung himself: QUOTE Cut: The scene at the end when Michael Wong turns around smirking after Cougar says "Damn You". The Thakral/Mei Ah sources should have this uncut.
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Oct 19 2005, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE(Knetan @ Oct 19 2005, 06:34 PM) hey, chen lung informed me a while back that an exchange between Michael Wong and a gwailo is cut by a single line of dialogue. It's not much but it's not there. From chen lung himself: [right][snapback]3745[/snapback][/right] Ahhh thanks. I'd actually feel better if Michael Wong was cut out of the movie totally so no biggie. It's a touch of the missing arse in Operation Condor. Tiny snip to change the tone of the scene/film? -------------------- The Jackie Chan Films Releases Project. Please contribute your knowledge.
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Oct 19 2005, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE Cut: The scene at the end when Michael Wong turns around smirking after Cougar says "Damn You". The Thakral/Mei Ah sources should have this uncut. Is that all? Blimey. I was worried there. Can't say I'd give up an anamorphic DVD for a brief shot of Michael Wong smirking. lol If I remember I'll see if it's on my tape. If not then it's presumably something missing from all International prints. -------------------- |
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Oct 19 2005, 08:21 PM
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Ah, I'm famous
 ! lolYeah, although it's no dialogue, just the 'turn around and smirk' that's missing, BTW, I don't find Michael Wong annoying, quite like his movies (Don't ban me  )! The fact that it may have English credits is a little off putting for purists. I thought Miramax owed the US distribution rights .
This post has been edited by chen lung: Oct 19 2005, 08:24 PM -------------------- Scott
Recommendations for a good release: 1) Uncut version with full ratio progressive anamorphic video for film-based features - no PAL>NTSC. 2) Original-language audio mix before other soundtracks (that includes other languages or remixes) - ensure no downmixes. 3) Re-do the layout and translation of subtitles by using native speakers/subtitlists covering all features - ensuring good grammar and understanding with no simplification in translation. 4) Integrate Seamless Branching for alternative versions if possible (including credit sequences - inclusion of export English version would be good). 5) Include extras if possible. 6) Communicate with fans/experts (here on the forums) in advance of the release - ensuring excellent versions with minimal errors. |
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Oct 19 2005, 08:55 PM
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It's possible that this disc may be uncut. New Line does own the rights to Thunderbolt. In fact, it's been on heavy rotation on TNT and HBO recently.
I'm assuming that it may be uncut because I've seen the shorter, English-dubbed New Line version and it would be difficult to have the original Cantonese track on a cut version. There would be screw-ups with the music and dialogue. On the positive side, the English dub does retain the original music and sound effects. I know that sounds contradicting to what I just said, but whatever...
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Oct 20 2005, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE(Saucy Jack @ Oct 19 2005, 08:55 PM) I've seen the shorter, English-dubbed New Line version [right][snapback]3760[/snapback][/right] That confirms there is one... Damn, I was hoping it was a mistake. Fucking New Line cocksuckers!! -------------------- |
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Oct 20 2005, 03:14 AM
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QUOTE(Markgway @ Oct 19 2005, 06:33 PM) That confirms there is one... Damn, I was hoping it was a mistake. Fucking New Line cocksuckers!! [right][snapback]3768[/snapback][/right] Well, Mark, there is a chance that the movie is uncut. I've only gotten to see the version shown on TNT, and there's a chance that they cut scenes for time... We'll have to wait and see. |
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Nov 6 2005, 12:33 AM
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Hey everyone, just came across Thunderbolt on the Warner Home Video website. Here is the Link: Ages ago, I remember writing a letter to New Line Home Video president asking them to release this movie with the original cantonese audio and uncut, perhaps that letter has been answered, (but not the runtime, since the previous posters and my HK LD of Thunderbolt lists the runtime as 106). We'll have to see at the end of January. - Kyoya21 This post has been edited by Kyoya21: Nov 6 2005, 05:33 AM |
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